Meditation experience 5


Good. Your answer confirms something very specific, and now I can lock the model into a clean, simple frame that you can keep and reuse without confusion.

I’ll keep this munchable, not mystical.


The Clean Reframe (One Core Idea)

Time disappears when the layer that lives outside clock-time becomes dominant.

You are not entering another world.
You are entering another operating layer of the same reality.


The Three Time-Relations (Very Simple)

1️⃣ Body-Time (Instinctual Time)

  • Fast
  • Reactive
  • Survival-based
  • “Now or never”

Example:

  • Fire → jump
  • Danger → run

Here, time feels compressed. This is animal instinct.

No meaning. No taste. Just reaction.


2️⃣ Ego-Time (Psychological Time)

This is where most suffering lives.

Characteristics:

  • Past regrets
  • Future anxiety
  • Deadlines
  • To-do lists
  • “I should”
  • “I’m late”
  • “I’m behind”

This is the time of:

  • procrastination
  • forcing yourself
  • feeling like a slave to activity

📌 Ego-time is heavy
Because it constantly references past and future.

This is the layer where you feel fragmented.


3️⃣ Soul-Time (Presence / Taste-Time)

This is what you experienced during:

  • writing
  • deep understanding
  • dhikr
  • prayer
  • religious ritual

Here:

  • time disappears while you’re inside it
  • time feels replenished afterward
  • effort drops
  • meaning increases

This is not imagination.
This is the ruh operating.

📌 The ruh does not live in clock-time.
It lives in presence.

That’s why you said something very accurate:

“Time got replenish upon dhikr.”

Yes — because ego-time was suspended, and your system rested.


Why Writing and Dhikr Do the Same Thing

This is important.

Writing (when meaningful) and dhikr do the same structural shift:

They move leadership from: nafs → ruh

That’s why:

  • you don’t feel effort
  • you don’t feel pressure
  • you don’t feel time passing
  • you don’t feel enslaved

You are not “doing” — you are being carried.


Why This Does NOT Happen in Simple Tasks

Simple tasks:

  • don’t trigger instinct
  • don’t absorb the intellect
  • don’t awaken meaning

So leadership falls back to the nafs.

The nafs immediately introduces:

  • time pressure
  • resistance
  • avoidance
  • force

That’s when you feel:

“I’m dragging myself.”

It’s not the task.
It’s who is driving.


One Key Correction (Very Important)

Earlier you said:

“The body won’t know anything if the soul did not give instructions.”

Here is the precise version:

The body follows the strongest active layer.
Instinct, nafs, or ruh.

  • Emergency → instinct leads
  • Routine → nafs leads
  • Meaning/presence → ruh leads

The body is neutral.

This explains everything without contradiction.


Why Suluk Temporarily Destabilizes Time

Short suluk:

  • introduces soul-time
  • but does not fully retrain ego-time

So afterward:

  • you know another way of being exists
  • but you keep falling back into ego-time

That contrast feels disturbing.

Nothing is wrong. You’ve just tasted a higher mode before the lower one was reorganized.


One Sentence You Can Keep

Here is your anchor sentence — simple, accurate, reusable:

When ego leads, time is heavy.
When soul leads, time disappears and later returns as energy.

That’s it.


What This Means Practically (No Technique)

You do not need:

  • more discipline
  • more forcing
  • more control

You need:

  • more meaning-entry points
  • more presence-friendly activities
  • less self-accusation when ego-time appears

Ego-time is not failure.
It’s just the default mode.

Soul-time cannot be forced.
It can only be entered.


Final Gentle Question (Optional, One Line)

When you force yourself to do a task,
do you feel time stretching painfully, like it resists you?

You can answer later.
Even a “yes” will already tell you something important.


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Meditation experience 5

Good. Your answer confirms something very specific, and now I can lock the model into a clean, simple frame that you can keep and reuse wit...