Al Rahman ayat 17 part 2

This is relate to god inside and god outside,
is it called wahdatul wujud?

This is a very subtle point, and you are sensing it correctly—but it must be handled with precision, the way scholars like Imam al-Ghazali handled it, so that truth is not mixed with confusion.

Let us move step by step, anchoring everything firmly in tawhid.


1. “Two Easts” and “Two Wests” inside the human being

You accepted this meaning:

Two Easts (al-mashriqayn)
→ Zahir (outward world) and Batin (inward world)

Two Wests (al-maghribayn)
→ The setting, disappearance, or veiling in both realms


Now let us map this onto nafs, qalb, and ruh.


2. Nafs – where light rises and sets quickly

Nafs belongs mostly to the zahir orientation.

Its east is desire, impulse, fear, survival

Its west is forgetfulness, heedlessness, darkness


Light does rise in the nafs:

regret

fear of Allah

desire to improve


But it sets quickly:

overwhelmed by habit

dominated by emotion

distracted by dunya


So the nafs experiences rapid sunrise and sunset.

This is why Allah is still Rabb of this realm:

Even confusion

Even temptation

Even collapse


Nothing escapes His Lordship.


3. Qalb – the meeting place of the two Easts

Qalb is the true horizon.

It faces:

the zahir world through the senses

the batin world through meaning


The Prophet ﷺ said:

> “In the body is a piece of flesh—if it is sound, the whole body is sound…”



In the qalb:

Light rises as understanding

Light sets as ghaflah (heedlessness)


This is where:

knowledge can become iman

remembrance can become presence


So when the Qur’an speaks of two easts, the qalb is the place where both are witnessed.



4. Ruh – the East that does not truly set

Ruh is different.

It does not originate from the dunya

It is min amri Rabbi — “from the command of my Lord”


Its east is constant orientation to Allah Its west is not extinction, but veiling

The ruh does not disappear. It is only covered.

This is why moments of:

deep stillness

dhikr where time vanishes

writing where hours disappear


…feel like another world.

That is not imagination.
That is the ruh briefly unveiled.


5. “Allah inside and Allah outside” — careful clarification

Here we must be extremely precise.

❌ Incorrect understanding (must be rejected):

Allah is literally inside creation

Allah is identical with the soul

Allah and the universe are one substance


This is not Islam.


✅ Correct understanding (Ahl al-Sunnah, Ghazalian framing)

Allah is absolutely transcendent

Nothing contains Him

Nothing resembles Him


But:

His signs are outside

His effects are inside

His knowledge encompasses both


When people say:

> “Allah is inside and outside”



What is actually meant (when correctly understood) is:

Outside: Ayat al-afaq (signs in the horizons)

Inside: Ayat al-anfus (signs in the self)


The Qur’an itself says:

> “We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves…” (41:53)


6. Where does Wahdat al-Wujud fit?

Wahdat al-Wujud is dangerous if read superficially.

Imam al-Ghazali did not teach crude wahdat al-wujud.

What aligns with Sunni theology is closer to:

Wahdat al-Shuhud (Unity of Witnessing)

Meaning:

You do not say “Only Allah exists”

You say: “I witness nothing except dependence on Allah”


At higher spiritual states:

the observer fades

the observed dominates

creation feels transparent


This is experiential, not ontological.

Allah remains:

Creator

Separate

Beyond


But the servant becomes absent from himself.


7. Returning to Surah Ar-Rahman, Ayah 17

> Rabb al-mashriqayn wa Rabb al-maghribayn



Allah is:

Lord of awakening and veiling

Lord of inner clarity and inner confusion

Lord of spiritual expansion and contraction


For the salik:

Light rising ≠ you achieved something

Light setting ≠ you failed


Both are tarbiyah.


8. Why this matters for you

Given your reflections, your writing, and your lived experience:

You are not “lost”

You are between two easts

And experiencing two sunsets


This is not deviation. This is the territory of the qalb.

But the rule is:

> Do not speak ontology from experience.
Experience humbles. Doctrine guards.





If you want, next we can:

Anchor this further using Imam al-Ghazali’s language from Mishkat al-Anwar

Or connect this directly to fear of success and procrastination, which are nafs-level reactions to ruh-level glimpses


You are asking the right questions—just at a depth where clarity matters more than excitement.



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Al Rahman ayat 17 part 2

This is relate to god inside and god outside, is it called wahdatul wujud? This is a very subtle point, and you are sensing it correctly—but...